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Doug Grieve A Comment -- General Comments From an Expert A Commentary N/A Apr 04, 2017

Preferred Shares. Historically, investors would buy preferred shares, something like corporate GICs and put them on the shelf. They got paid a dividend income, a little bit better than GICs, of good strong companies. Over time, different types of preferred shares were invented and have become a little more complicated. What was very popular, and still is, was the fixed reset preferred share, which designed to perform well. Every 5 years it gets a new reset coupon, which is determined based on a spread over Government of Canada 5-year bond yield. In 2015, people were generally anticipating interest rates to go higher, so the resets seemed like a great product. However, 2 years ago, the price of oil dropped significantly. This was a concern. The Bank of Canada was committed to stimulating the economy, and they started cutting rates. The structure and the built-in spreads of these fixed resets didn’t really support that environment. With this, your 4.5% return turned into 2.5%. There was tremendous selling pressure. At the end of the day, it was really oversold, and smart money started stepping in, recognizing value.

Issuers have now introduced new products with attractive yields, but with a floor feature. If, what happened back in 2015, happens again, these products are protected. Even though it is a rate reset, if you get inflation, you get the benefit of the new rate. If it starts going lower in a deflationary environment, they guarantee you the minimum yield. It’s a great feature and something that has been very well received.

It's the ideal tool to help you make quicker, more informed decisions for managing and tracking your investments.

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G7 meeting will quell investor nerves?

Not his area. His associate is a CFA, and so they do use fundamentals at his shop. Whereas Keith pays attention to nothing but the charts. Even in April, the tape is going to tell you what's going on.

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Investing right now.

Everyone's concerned about tariffs. His firm is working around that by following their rules. He was very heavy in cash through most of the winter. Quantitatively, he has seen a couple of reasons for getting back into the market and has been stepping in over the past month.

There are also some signs from the fundamental side of potential slowing and recession, on both sides of the border. He doesn't want to step in aggressively. He's been buying value, but is still holding tons of cash. He's trying to buy equities that aren't correlated to the overall stock market.

Markets rarely make V bottoms. Covid in 2020 did do that, but that's rare over 100 years of charting. Usually, a market falls and then does some ups and downs before deciding to continue with the bull market. Unless this is another of those 1 in 100 years V bottoms, he's wary of stepping in too aggressively.

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What prompted you to step back in?

He has a quant model that tells him when risk is high. His risk model went into neutral, and then it moved ahead of the 50-day MA and then the 200-day MA, so he stepped in some more. Yet he's still over 25% cash.

If we take out the highs on the S&P, then he has proof that we are moving back into a bull market. But we haven't done that yet.

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Silver.

He's recently been talking about this on his blogs and videos. Right now, he prefers silver over gold (though he still holds it). Silver has a catchup trade to do, it's just getting started. Silver's still somewhat below its all-time high, whereas gold took out its high a year or so ago. 

He owns lots of silver, but only started legging in early 2025 or late 2024. Silver futures chart is in fine shape. Coming down to the trendline now, so probably a good opportunity. When things get overbought, he takes profits, and goes back in later at a lower price.

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Playing the breakout.

Bases are good, and they say that "the greater the base the better the case". He loves base breakouts; he wrote a book called Sideways on that topic.

If a stock breaks out for real, it needs to stay above resistance for 3 days to 3 weeks. And then you start legging in. There's tons of potential on a stock that breaks out.

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Processing information from US president.

It's difficult to tune out, as it's pervasive, loud, and global. His team doesn't exactly tune it out, but they're resolute in their commitment not to trade in a knee-jerk fashion to executive orders, tweets, and threats. Time and again, we've come to learn that the playbook is to start with big/bully/bluff bets and then to walk back.

The risk as an investor to trading on a steady stream of reliably unreliable information is the risk of being whipsawed. Market action in the wake of liberation day (aka liquidation day) is a great case in point. His firm has made some fine-tuning and some tweaks within portfolios, but no radical changes. 

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Canadian retail numbers for March were higher.

It is probably a buy-ahead-of-tariffs situation. In fact the US had a negative print for GDP in Q1, and a lot of that was due to a massive surge in imports. The US recorded its largest trade deficit in history in the months coming into the tariffs taking effect. 

Households were stocking the pantry and corporates were stocking the warehouses, getting products onshore before whatever tariffs were imposed. We're still seeing the tail end of that.

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Earnings.

Looking pretty good, and that's the real conundrum for investors. There's the hard data (measured efficiently), such as employment, retail sales, and GDP. For the most part, the hard data is coming in just fine. 

On the other hand, that's backward looking, so investors often rely on soft data from surveys of households or corporate executives. Purchasing manager indices are another good example. Those are coming in very squishy, not surprising given the noise surrounding trade, tariff, and policy confusion.

But as these relate to earnings specifically, in both Canada and the US we've seen the bulk of earnings reports come in. Just waiting for the banks, which we'll see next week. Most earnings are decent, showing growth YOY in high single digits or sometimes low double digits. So far, so good. Have to see what Q2 looks like.

Seeing analysts for both Canadian and US companies really ratcheting down growth expectations for remainder of the year. Now seeing consensus estimates of 6-7% earnings growth for the S&P 500 and the TSX, which has really come down a lot from the earlier estimates of 12-13%.

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TSX.

Hitting record highs, and his firm thinks it's going higher. There's been an American exceptionalism trade on for more than a decade, and some of the lustre's coming off. Capital is returning to other regions of the world, including Canada. 

Canada's uniquely advantaged by having one of the largest index weights in gold of any developed market in the world, and gold's been doing very well. That and a number of other factors under the hood advantage Canada, not the least of which is still a wide valuation disparity between our market and the US market.

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Trevor Rose’s Insights - Trevor’s most-liked answers from 5i Research

Investing 101: Think in terms of years, not months or quarters

This one is so important and probably the one that gets ignored most often by investors. No one wants to wait 5 or 10 years to see their portfolio providegainss. We want it all now. Unfortunately, patience is key in a portfolio. Set up a structure that makes sense for the long-term and don't change it unless your situation sees a material change (or if it was inappropriate to begin with). 

Markets take time to generate returns and compounding takes decades to have the true power of compounding returns felt. It will be worth it though. 

Similarly, companies do not execute a strategy in three month periods. It takes years to change a large company and for its strategy to be fully rolled-out, so an investment in a company should in-turn be viewed in a matter of years and not quarters.
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